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Menlo Park: Tough construction impacts to test public support of new Guild Theatre

New music venue construction to narrow El Camino Real for about six months over the next two years

Workers take down the marquee of the Guild Theatre on Nov. 27. Demolition and construction work for a new theater will be taking place for the next two years and spell traffic problems for southbound El Camino Real. Photo by Sammy Dallal/The Almanac.

When Menlo Park resident Drew Dunlevie brought forward the idea of a nonprofit live music venue to breathe new life into the old Guild Theatre in early 2018, the widespread excitement about the idea offered a rare example of how near-unanimous public support can expedite an often contentious and slow-moving process.

However, it's likely that the abundant public goodwill the project generated will be put to the test over the next two years as demolition and construction work move forward.

According to a Dec. 10 staff report, construction on the new Guild Theatre will start with six weeks of demolition work set to last through mid-January, followed by 18 months of construction, through mid-2021.

The bad news: Construction of the building at 949 El Camino Real is going to require about 180 days of "intermittent" closures of the southbound through lane on El Camino Real, according to staff. (El Camino has only two lanes in that section, with curbside parking.)

And while the closures are set to last from 9:30 a.m. to 3 p.m. – avoiding the worst peak commute times – staff say they expect "a significant traffic impact" as a result of the planned lane closures.

They say they tried to explore other options, but there really aren't any, since the only access to the theater is off of El Camino Real, and the theater takes up the entire property site, according to the report.

One potential silver lining of the misery folks will experience traversing a further-bottlenecked El Camino Real is that city staff are working with the Peninsula Arts Guild, the nonprofit that's building the new theater, to use the planned closures to improve a couple of crosswalks along El Camino Real near the theater.

In 2016, the City Council approved and budgeted for expanding crosswalk options along El Camino Real at key intersections, including those at Roble Avenue and Menlo/Ravenswood avenues.

Those crossings only have crosswalks on one side of El Camino Real. The city proposes to add a crosswalk, curb ramp and pedestrian signals at those intersections. (The city also supports expanded crosswalks across El Camino Real at Middle and Cambridge avenues, but has tied those crosswalks to Stanford's Middle Plaza project, under construction.)

According to the report, city staff are working out a funding agreement with the Peninsula Arts Guild. The next steps for the crosswalks are to design, do the environmental clearance work, and then install them, a process expected to unfold over the next two years alongside the new theater's construction.

The Peninsula Arts Guild was launched by Menlo Park resident Drew Dunlevie and backed by two other locals, investor Pete Briger and entrepreneur Thomas Layton.

The scope of the project became more complex last year when it became evident that the theater's current configuration slightly oversteps the property line, requiring a wall to be demolished and moved 6 inches in.

Plans are for the new theater to have a main viewing area on the ground floor, a second-story mezzanine, and a basement with a "green room" and a comfortable area where performers can shower and relax prior to shows. The new Guild will be about 11,000 square feet, with a maximum height of 34 feet, and with a capacity for about 150 to 200 seats, or about 500 people at a standing-room-only show.

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14 people like this
Posted by Awesome!
a resident of Woodside: other
on Dec 16, 2019 at 12:40 pm

Huge applause for this idea and the undertaking of it! Go, Menlo Park!


14 people like this
Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Dec 16, 2019 at 1:13 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

"closures of the southbound through lane on El Camino Real,"

Since the parking lane will be gone why do they need to close TWO lanes?

Leaving only one southbound lane at any time during the day will be a disaster.


11 people like this
Posted by Westside Trucker
a resident of Atherton: West Atherton
on Dec 16, 2019 at 2:07 pm

3
I agree with Peter. It is already a mess. Construction in the area has been going on for months. Why add another 6 months ? Give them the curb lane and thats all.
I have already given up on shopping and eating in Menlo Park. I already go north to Redwood City and San Carlos to shop and eat.


18 people like this
Posted by K.Rae
a resident of Portola Valley: Ladera
on Dec 16, 2019 at 2:55 pm

What a great way to finally make Menlo Park great! Any way to get art to the city is positive, especially live music art. I can't wait for this place to open.


15 people like this
Posted by Ted
a resident of another community
on Dec 16, 2019 at 3:05 pm

This is going to be great for Menlo Park and really help local businesses. Will be great to have people in and around town at night time.


17 people like this
Posted by Dan, Menlo Music Fan
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Dec 16, 2019 at 3:10 pm

This temporary traffic issue is a small price to pay for a much-needed live music venue in Menlo Park. The Guild will benefit the community enormously, provide a source of nightlife to residents in the area, and will revitalize downtown. Sure, traffic is never fun, but the upside here is undeniable.


4 people like this
Posted by whocares
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Dec 16, 2019 at 3:14 pm

"One potential silver lining ... use the planned closures to improve a couple of crosswalks along El Camino Real near the theater... a process expected to unfold over the next two years alongside the new theater's construction."

Are they serious! Last week I turned the corner at Barre 3 to find the sidewalk closed at the theater. Turned around and walked back to Menlo Ave.. Waited to cross. Crossed. Waited to cross ECR. Crossed. Waited to cross Ravenswood. Crossed. Walked down to Roble and waited to cross back. Not that I would expect them to put in pedestrian access around the construction like a normal city, but couldn't they have put the cross walk on the south side of Menlo across ECR VEFORE the 2 year detour started. Un-freakin-believeable.


9 people like this
Posted by live work play
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Dec 16, 2019 at 3:19 pm

The traffic is bad already, and that is not to blame on this project. Yes it may be a bit worse. That is true for all of the development on El Camino Real in MP, including the Stanford project and Station 1300. But for a little more near term pain, we will get lots of long term gain! Many more amenities, restaurants, retail and workers and residents in our downtown core that can support local business. The new Guild will be one such destination - it is unique and will really set us apart from other peninsula cities (who all have traffic and parking issues by the way.) Stay focused on the long term vision for live, work, play in MP!


12 people like this
Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Dec 16, 2019 at 3:22 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

" That is true for all of the development on El Camino Real in MP, including the Stanford project and Station 1300."

None of those projects have or will reduce ECR traffic to a single lane.

This will be a disaster.


11 people like this
Posted by Arts Lover
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Dec 16, 2019 at 3:25 pm

Nobody likes traffic, but this place will be worth the hassle. Menlo Park dearly NEEDS a reason to visit it during the evening, and I, for one, am expecting this venue to become the catalyst for revitalization. Can't happen soon enough!


13 people like this
Posted by Melissa, local resident
a resident of Portola Valley: Ladera
on Dec 16, 2019 at 3:29 pm

While I dislike traffic as much as the next person, construction is part of the deal and will be well worth the investment in this project. Menlo Park has needed something like this venue for a long time and I personally cannot wait to spend more time in my local area.


10 people like this
Posted by Dan again
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Dec 16, 2019 at 3:30 pm

"[the Stanford project and Station 1300] will not reduce ECR traffic to a single lane. This will be a disaster."

Unlike the Guild, there is not a single business going up in the Stanford or Station 1300 project that I foresee bringing me an ounce of joy.


12 people like this
Posted by Jeff
a resident of Portola Valley: Ladera
on Dec 16, 2019 at 3:36 pm

Having been involved with several commercial construction projects, I'm impressed with how well the Peninsula Arts Guild is managing this project, including the disruption. The near-term inconvenience will be made up many times over by the positive business impact and energy the new Guild will bring to downtown!


11 people like this
Posted by Laurie Knox
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Dec 16, 2019 at 3:48 pm

Short term pain for long term gain. This minor traffic disruption will be well worth it once we have this phenomenal new venue for all of us to enjoy for generations to come! Bravo to Mr Dunlevie and his hard-working team for all their efforts in making the New Guild a reality!!


11 people like this
Posted by M
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Dec 16, 2019 at 3:49 pm

Can't wait for this project to be done! While the traffic in the near term won't be great, I think it will be well worth it for Menlo Park in the long term. Downtown Menlo is SO SLEEPY. We need things like this to liven up the community!


11 people like this
Posted by JBD
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Dec 16, 2019 at 3:59 pm

This is a site constrained project and there is only so much the developer and city can do to mitigate the impact. This project and the vibrancy it will bring to Menlo Park will be a game changer so I'm personally glad to endure a short term lane closure in exchange for all the future programming I'll have access to (with $0 in public funding required I might add)


3 people like this
Posted by Mark
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Dec 16, 2019 at 4:02 pm

Does this project truly request/require that we reduce southbound El Camino Real traffic to a single lane for six months!? Just. Wow!


12 people like this
Posted by where's my mule?
a resident of Menlo Park: University Heights
on Dec 16, 2019 at 4:21 pm

way to go DD! The value to the community far outweighs some short term traffic..


6 people like this
Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Dec 16, 2019 at 5:04 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

I think the city and the developer are underestimating the ill will that reducing ECR southbound toa single lane will create.

This will push traffic into the neighborhoods on both sides of ECR.


11 people like this
Posted by MP Resident
a resident of Menlo Park: Sharon Heights
on Dec 16, 2019 at 5:16 pm

Menlo Park will have a gem of a theater as a result of the significant investment of the people funding the rebirth of the Guild, community members, and new patrons. Before we get ourselves tied up in knots about *potential* inconveniences, let's focus on what we're getting - and acknowledge that everything good comes requires an investment.


12 people like this
Posted by Future frequent patron
a resident of Portola Valley: Ladera
on Dec 16, 2019 at 5:28 pm

Traffic stinks all around the Palo Alto / Menlo Park area. At least the inconvenience this will cause is being publicized, so people can plan around it. And at the end, we will have a fantastic new venue brought to us by pros. We need this! Thank you Drew and team for the vision and fortitude to make it happen.


13 people like this
Posted by Jill Peters
a resident of another community
on Dec 16, 2019 at 5:28 pm

Woooo hooo! Thank you, Drew Dunlevie and team. This is a short amount of construction time for a lifetime of fun and community building. Menlo Park is so lucky to be getting this venue. The whole downtown will be transformed.


11 people like this
Posted by Palo Alto resident
a resident of another community
on Dec 16, 2019 at 5:42 pm

As a resident of Palo Alto, I find it hard not to be jealous of Menlo Park with this phenomenal cultural treasure being re-imagined and brought back to life. The whole peninsula will benefit enormously and downtown Menlo Park will be transformed. Congratulations and thank you! Any traffic delays will soon be forgotten.


10 people like this
Posted by Soccer mom
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Dec 16, 2019 at 6:20 pm

The hours of ECR being one lane for one block are 9:30 to 3:00 and it won't be every day. While the intent of the article leans toward fomenting frustration, at least now we know.

Yes, it will be painful for a bit. Do you remember the Santa Cruz/Junipero Serra/Sand Hill closure? Or have you lived in a town when CalTrain built the elevated train tracks? Or list any Stanford campus construction project. We forget about the pain when we enjoy the benefits of the improvements.

This project will help make Menlo Park a destination for peninsula residents. People complain about "Menlo Dark," having to go to RWC or PA for entertainment, etc. We will soon have a cool venue that will attract people to our town for dinner and more. We won't have to travel far to see live performances. I echo the sentiment: Short term pain for long term gain!


7 people like this
Posted by Lost Causes
a resident of another community
on Dec 16, 2019 at 6:24 pm

From the comments posted here, it seems that Peter Carpenter is a minority of one when it comes to the Guild project.

It's worth remembering here that Carpenter opposed a project in Atherton. The project in question? It was...wait for it...a Little League ballpark.

Carpenter sure knows how to be on the losing side of an argument.


8 people like this
Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Dec 16, 2019 at 7:04 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

"It's worth remembering here that Carpenter opposed a project in Atherton. The project in question? It was...wait for it...a Little League ballpark."

My concerns were giving the Little League the exclusive use of public property. Thanks to my raising the issue this exclsive access was removed from the final agreement.

I predict that after one week of a single lane on ECR the contractor will be restricted to use of the curb lane.

This IS a great project - don't burden it with this ill will.


11 people like this
Posted by Captain Fantastic
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Dec 16, 2019 at 8:11 pm

Congrats to Drew and team for having the resiliency to see this project through in a city where everyone complains and nothing is easy. Sometimes you have to get sick before you can truly get well again. Short term traffic headaches will be the bridge to something much greater. This spot would have been a bankrupt, dilapidated eyesore for years it weren't for the philanthropic investment. The PAG will be the cornerstone for the next generation of MP (hopefully one with less rug stores).


6 people like this
Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Dec 16, 2019 at 8:18 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Drew

The use of TWO lanes of ECR for this project is unwise and a mistake which will mar this project. The traffic impact on adjacent neighborhoods will be profound.

Find another solution.


Peter


5 people like this
Posted by Yoni
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Dec 16, 2019 at 8:37 pm

[Post removed; state your opinion about the topic - don't attack other posters.]


3 people like this
Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Dec 16, 2019 at 8:40 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Actually I now live in Menlo Park in Park Forest.


5 people like this
Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Dec 16, 2019 at 8:53 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Yoni - You would be a more productive member of a sharing community if you addressed the issue rather than attacking another poster.


12 people like this
Posted by Downtown Revival
a resident of Portola Valley: Ladera
on Dec 16, 2019 at 8:56 pm

Small inconvenience to have an amazing music, arts, and community venue downtown. Can't wait for the new Guild Theatre to open!


12 people like this
Posted by liz fio
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Dec 16, 2019 at 9:02 pm

Small inconvenience for a great cultural venue!


10 people like this
Posted by Menlo Voter.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Dec 16, 2019 at 9:09 pm

Menlo Voter. is a registered user.

" This minor traffic disruption will be well worth it "

There will be nothing "minor" about it. ECR traffic is already a cluster during commute hours and most of the day. Take it down to one lane and it will be a disaster. They only need the sidewalk and parking lane, just like the other, larger projects up the street on the same side of ECR. Wait until ECR is down to one lane. I can hear the screams from all the folks on here that don't think it's a big deal. Imagine bumper to bumper traffic south bound from at least Atherton Ave.


17 people like this
Posted by Menlo Brooke
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Dec 16, 2019 at 9:10 pm

If the theater is filled minimally with 100-150 people or up to the aforementioned 500 “standing room only” amount, I don’t know where these people are going to park! Personally, this project is so wrong for this location and two years of inconveniences is “two too many.” Traffic on ECR is already a parking lot! Unbelievable that this project ever got approved. The Guild was probably built back when Menlo was a “horse and buggy” town and everyone walked to the theater but does not seem like a good location for the theater now.


14 people like this
Posted by Hugo Traeger
a resident of another community
on Dec 16, 2019 at 9:19 pm

We should all be delighted to see The New Guild project underway. Looking forward to the first show there. We are in such dire need of a great entertainment venue here.


13 people like this
Posted by Perspective
a resident of Portola Valley: Westridge
on Dec 16, 2019 at 10:00 pm

This article seems jaded against this project... the traffic impact will generally avoid school/commuting times and will be 18 months. I generally take the attitude that we should be patient while our neighbors and local businesses improve their properties, especially when the result will be improving the value or our own properties (and certainly our night life) over the long term.


11 people like this
Posted by Menlo Resident
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Dec 16, 2019 at 11:32 pm

I really have to chuckle reading these comments. Seems that many of the supporters who feel the traffic jam/ECR lane closures seem like a small inconvenience — don’t even live in Menlo Park! Easy for non-residents of MP to say! You won’t be living with the traffic congestion mess for the next two years while it is being built and there won’t be any place for people to park once it is built!


9 people like this
Posted by Music Lover
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Dec 17, 2019 at 7:53 am

I've been following this project since the beginning & cannot wait for the Guild music venue to open. It's going to be the go to spot in the Bay Area. We need this!


6 people like this
Posted by p maurano
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Dec 17, 2019 at 10:13 am

Seems like a big ask to me. Why not inconvenience the developer for once instead of the entire city and our surrounding neighbors? Close the lanes from 9 PM to 3 AM.


5 people like this
Posted by Soccer mom
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Dec 17, 2019 at 11:18 am

@p maurano: Great idea! Are you signing up to clear that with all the adjacent residents?


7 people like this
Posted by Eric Glader
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Dec 17, 2019 at 11:27 am

Just spent several hours and a couple hundred dollars going up to San Francisco for dinner and a Pete Yorn concert last night. What a pleasure it would've be to spend that time and money in my community rather than 28 miles north of my home. It will be great to have the Guild completed!

It is unfortunate that there is no way to build without interrupting the status quo in MP, but it takes work to make progress and I really believe a social venue, like the Guild, will be a beacon for the city of Menlo Park.

There will be traffic during construction. Agreed. But this is a short-term issue with a wonderful end result that will benefit us, our children and the city of Menlo Park.

Rock on!


3 people like this
Posted by Confused
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Dec 17, 2019 at 12:04 pm

Wait, so they are tearing down a theater to build a theater? Got it


7 people like this
Posted by D. Bradley
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Dec 17, 2019 at 1:03 pm

I take my hat off to Drew Dunlevie and his team for having the vision and the fortitude to do this project.
Yes, it will add more traffic for us all, but don't be so short sided ... the end result will be amazing!


6 people like this
Posted by Perspective
a resident of Portola Valley: Westridge
on Dec 17, 2019 at 1:17 pm

Dear Menlo Resident,
If you think that because I am in PV that I will not experience the traffic in MP (to go to an actual supermarket, to go to a restaurant beyond our three, etc.), you are mistaken.


8 people like this
Posted by Resident
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Dec 17, 2019 at 2:45 pm

This is so exciting! I'm happy this is all coming together, and I honestly don't think that the "abundant public goodwill" that this project has generated will diminish at all. All of the other folks in MP that I've spoken to about this remain excited. Finally a venue to hear great live music! I can't wait.


5 people like this
Posted by MGC
a resident of Portola Valley: Westridge
on Dec 17, 2019 at 6:01 pm

I understand the frustration with traffic, but this project is truly one for the community. I am thrilled this amazing venue will be available for all of our families for generations to come. I am also impressed by the generosity that has allowed this non profit to happen in the first place. Having grown up close to the Guild, I can say that every worthwhile project around this area has involved some inconvenience to the community during the course of construction.


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Posted by Lost Causes
a resident of another community
on Dec 17, 2019 at 6:29 pm

I think it would benefit everyone on this board to read what Peter Carpenter ACTUALLY said about the Little League ballpark at Holbrook Palmer Park in Atherton, and note how Carpenter's arguments about any subject should be taken with a very large grain of salt:

Web Link


4 people like this
Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Dec 17, 2019 at 6:41 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Nov 28, 2014 at 8:28 am
Peter Carpenter is a registered user.
I am neither opposing the concept of a stadium nor dismissing the importance of children but rather urging respect for the Measure M that was passed by the voters regarding the concept of a structure at the baseball field. Measure M stated that the structure -"should be allowed to be constructed after appropriate planning review".

The Ballot statement included this language :"Voter approval of the measure will not automatically grant the Little League improvement proposal which will still have to go through the normal Town land use review process."

The Planning Commission refused to approve the current design. Atherton's Planning Commission stated that "the physical improvements are too monumental, too large in scale and counter to maintaining the rustic nature of the park," commission chair Herman Christensen".


4 people like this
Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Dec 17, 2019 at 6:42 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Dec 3, 2014 at 7:19 am
Peter Carpenter is a registered user.
This stadium is a perfect example of mission creep. What started out as a modest structure has become an edifice. The permissions have been given and the deed is done.

But when it is finished and people realize that a significant portion of the park will be off limits to everyone else for 5 months of every year ("Use of the field area shall not be granted by the Town to any other group for organized events during the season. The season is defined as February, March, April, May and June.") I think there will be a lot of recriminations.

Time will tell - and the LL'ers will certainly have a superb facility.


12 people like this
Posted by No Easy Solution
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Dec 17, 2019 at 10:27 pm

The comments on this message board from anonymous posters advocating how great the future venue will be regardless of the horrific traffic sounds very fishy. Seems like a coordinated campaign to influence public opinion. The message are to conveniently posted within a few minutes of each other.


4 people like this
Posted by Barry P
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Dec 18, 2019 at 11:20 am

This is awesome!!! Menlo Park will be lucky to have access to this great new venue and amazing entertainment. This will be an excellent source of cultural events and really cool that this is a non-profit venture. I'd say that I cannot wait, though it is well-worth the wait so I can wait. This will be great for years to come.


7 people like this
Posted by Mark
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Dec 18, 2019 at 1:02 pm

Agree with others that Mr. Dunlevie clearly rallied the project cheerleaders to this comment thread, though those of you from Portola Valley or "another community" who assure us the traffic impacts will be minimal and well worth the result are viewed widely askance, of course. A single block-long, southbound lane on El Camino Real during six mid-day hours, for six months (assuming the project remains on schedule) seems something of a non-starter. I wish Dunlevie and company well in this venture, much as I'll miss the old Guild Theater, but they'll engender a great deal of angst with the current project traffic plan, while the cynic in me can't help but wonder what will happen to the venue if live music doesn't pan out--it may very well house a startup company or incubator three years hence....


3 people like this
Posted by Soccer mom
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Dec 18, 2019 at 8:34 pm

@Mark: Ladera residents go to M-A so there are plenty of teens and adults from Portola Valley who drive through that intersection twice a day. And as another poster said, PV residents are frequently in Menlo Park for shopping and dining. Menlo Park traffic impacts more than MP residents.


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