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Original post made by Palm Reader, Menlo Park: Downtown, on Nov 20, 2012

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Was a very long series of posts with great participation and many, many claims. Shall we review a few for accuracy?

-- menlo observer "So get ready for a Romney presidency. People have grown really tired of Obama's whining and complaining. He is just an irresponsible feckless fool who won't fool the electorate twice."

Bold prediction. How did it work out?

-- pogo "Perhaps Obama supporters who should consider changing candidates. I kinda like Romney's chances with 3 months to go..."

Chances are....?

-- hank "I for one, will be glad when Obama is turned out of office on November 6. Obama's socialist redistribution of wealth scheme has not been well received by the American Public. ...will allow us to do is Unamerican and will be repudiated by the majority of voters come November 6."

What did Sarah Palin say about reFudiation?

-- hank "Obama is toast! But libs take satisfaction in Obama winning California. You can use that to ease the pain of the electoral college repudiation of Obama when it votes in Governor Romney as the next President of the United States."

How's that Romney transition team doing?

-- hank "Only 96 days until the American public votes Obama out of office. I wonder If Obama will have to return the Nobel Prize for failing to keep his promise to the Nobel Prize Committee to change the USA into a Socialist nation."

Oh, Hank.... face it, all that visceral hatred means that deep down, in the dark recesses, late at night, you harbor these strange thoughts.... it's okay Hank, let them out! Be free!

-- pine view "Pogo, what will Romney do differently than George W Bush and Dick Cheney?"

That one never got answered, did it? By ANYONE!!

-- pogo "Be careful what you wish for, Governor Dewey."

Dewey got 330 electoral votes? Did he win the second term by 4 million votes, also?

-- pogo "I don't hear any Republicans saying they are unhappy with their candidate."

Ahem. Look around. Web Link "Evangelical leaders and conservative activists have a simple message for establishment Republicans about Mitt Romney’s failed presidential bid: We told you so."

-- rock and hard place "... I believe that in this election cycle Governor Romney is the best choice."

Even the GOP disagrees with that. Now.

-- pogo "This will probably be a very close election and we will all be up very late on election night waiting for final results from Ohio or some other swing state."

Not so much. Wasn't it called by 9pm?

-- bottom line "It's safe to say that Obama is toast."

Marmalade, butter or dry?

-- hank "Romney has it all over Obama... It is just so difficult for them to face the fact that their socialist hero is about to take a drubbing... Now, Romney will take over from Obama in January"

Saw a photo of Romney pumping gas in La Jolla yesterday. Still looked very sad. probably because he believed the crap that GOP party officials like Hank were peddling.

-- hank "It is too late for Obama. The democrats wouldn't be in this situation if Hillary got the nomination... And now you are going to lose the White House. It serves you right. Turn out the lights the party's over!"

Sorry. Didn't catch that last part. The party is awfully loud... say what? oh yeah, at the party we were discussin hank's vote for Hillary in 2016.

-- hank "It is not going to be pretty for the Democrats, at the national level, this time around."

cue a little West Side Story: I feel pretty, oh so pretty, so pretty and gaaaaayyyy!! Hope you like my singing, Hank.

-- meg "Perhaps it is time to ask Hank and others the defining question of our time - Mr. Lawrence, do you believe the president is an American?"

Was not answered, was it?

-- get real "I just want to know when we can start celebrating the dear leaders accomplishments."

You may proceed. By all means.

-- hank "And that is making Obama a one term president. And I am going to help make that happen. Just not in California."

Oh dear, Hank, you weren't trying to use that GOP software program, ORCA, were you? Try looking at the other side to do it correctly. When we were making our calls, our software worked and yours blew up in your face. Or were you using paper print outs?

Arguably, these silicon valley and chi-town geeks, gays, misfits and nerds won it for Obama. "When the Nerds Go Marching In; By Alexis C. Madrigal" Web Link

And Romney's "let's outsource it" style for GOTV software lost it for Romney when the software imploded.

Hey Hank -- who built it themselves? The Democrats! Who outsourced it and had it blow up in their face on election day?

Romney and team.

Ain't schadenfreude a b****?

Speaking of schadenfreude, how about this one: Mitt Romney's final popular vote percentage keeps shrinking. he is currently at 47.56%. If it shrinks just a bit to 47.49%, it rounds down to 47%. He is a hair away from only having 47%, with only 10 states having certified their vote by Nov 19. New York is still counting, as are all the western blue states. Obama had a 4 million vote lead and counting, larger than Bush's 2004 margin. Web Link

47% for Romney.

Wasn't the number 47 a well used number by Mitt Romney?

Mitt claims 47% of Americans are takers and useless; Mitt gets 47% of the vote.


But then, schadenfreude usually is....

Happy Thanksgiving, all!

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Posted by Carolyn Schaeffer
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Nov 20, 2012 at 1:26 pm

Mr 47% is at 47% ?


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Posted by Mark the Math Major
a resident of Hillview Middle School
on Nov 20, 2012 at 2:28 pm

So many really bad assertions and claims. Was it any wonder Romney thought he had a chance, rather than the blowout he took?

Read Doonesbury this week about math.

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Posted by Alfred
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Nov 20, 2012 at 6:13 pm

Nice try, Palm. You'll never have those 'prognosicators' defend their claims, even if they could take off their rose tinted Romney lens.

Don't worry though, in 20 years, Texas becomes a swing state and its game over for the GOP.

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Posted by POGO
a resident of Woodside: other
on Nov 21, 2012 at 5:29 am

Hey guys, there was an election. Obama won. Romney lost.

Perhaps it is those supporting the winners who should get over it...

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Posted by Palm Reader
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Nov 21, 2012 at 8:52 am

The so-called 'accountability' crowd detests it when they are held, you know....


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Posted by Jenny D
a resident of Portola Valley: other
on Nov 21, 2012 at 12:06 pm

Accountability? Never!

How about this pack of rhetoric and lies? No wonder Rmoney lost and the whole party got beat up. The only one to come out ahead is the guy who wasn't running for office - Christie.

"When his holiness, the Oblama, comes to town all must move over because of his awesomeness. Change is in the air and BO will soon be voted out. By the way can we compare BO's business record to Mitt? Oh that's right BO has never started or worked in a business; nothing to compare. Who cares what the tax returns say, BO is wealthy and Mitt is wealthy; move on. What has either done for me lately? BO has done NOTHING but add to my taxes. Mitt says he his going to reduce taxes. I vote to give Mitt a chance. BO had 3+ years and so far he created high unemployement, a weak economy and massive tax hikes. Time to move on and let him make $100k / speech at the next climate change, global peace, we all need to be better world citizens gas bag festival."

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Posted by Pardoner of turkeys
a resident of Woodside: Woodside Glens
on Nov 21, 2012 at 6:13 pm

Web Link


The Rose Garden

2:08 P.M. EST

THE PRESIDENT: Well, good afternoon, everybody. (Turkey gobbles.) (Laughter.)

They say that life is all about second chances. And this November, I could not agree more. (Laughter.) So in the spirit of the season, I have one more gift to give, and it goes to a pair of turkeys named Cobbler and Gobbler. The American people have spoken, and these birds are moving forward. (Turkey gobbles.) (Laughter.) I love this bird. (Laughter.)

Now, I joke, but for the first time in our history, the winners of the White House Turkey Pardon were chosen through a highly competitive online vote. And once again, Nate Silver completely nailed it. (Laughter.) The guy is amazing. He predicted these guys would win.

I want to thank everyone who participated in this election. Because of your votes, the only cobbler anyone’s eating this Thanksgiving will come with a side of ice cream. And for that, our winning turkey can thank his stellar campaign team led by Steve Willardsen, who is the Chairman of the National Turkey Foundation and raised this beautiful bird at Miller Farm in Harrisonburg, Virginia. So here’s Steve. (Applause.)

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Posted by Ed Treller
a resident of Menlo Park: Sharon Heights
on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:23 am

Happy Thanksgiving, 'pardoner', and to all the readers.

While fun to mock the loony fringe that kept insisting that Romney would somehow win in a landslide (despite the structural Obama advantage in the electoral vote) let's look at the posters who were able to see past their particular echo chamber and view multiple sources, best of which were the aggregators. (sp?)

There were several threads that included predictions; numerous posters came pretty close. My listing of the predictions by RCP and Nate Silver did not count as a personal prediction; I only posted their prediction. Anyone who predicted over 300 votes for Obama then came down to whether they picked Florida's 29 votes correctly. For most out here, that was a coin flip, I feel even those on the ground in FL didn't know.

In several of the prediction threads, many posters referred to the aggregators, those posters tended to be closest. Posters who did not offer any reasoning for their guess, or offered a single data point (such as "Gallup, or Ras, gives Romney a 4 POINT LEAD!") fared the worst. Among those that referenced one aggregator or another: Pogo, apparently an RCP 'fan' who consistently called for a tight race, and Peter Carpenter, who appeared to prefered Silver's 538.

Poster Mark above refers to this week's Doonesbury -- fabulous, simply fabulous, right down to the hokey msnbc portrayal. Web Link

Poll numbers, monthly BLS job statistics, basic climate science, basic biology... skewering the 'unskewers' one at a time.



Now I'm rambling, waaaaay off topic...

My 'perfect election night coverage' rant.

The most frustrating? MSNBC. So close yet SO far from watchable. Mathews, Sharpton, Schultz made it literally unwatchable. The other networks were more watchable just for the absence of those buffoons.

My fantasy team? Rachel Maddow hosts Steve Schmidt (her regular GOP go-to, the campaign manager for McCain) and Michael Steele (former RNC head.) On her left would be Chris Hayes, a remarkably bright and likable lib (imo.)

Alternatively, bring in Chris Wallace from Fox to host and scoot Maddow over next to Hayes. Not sure if I would bring anyone else from Fox. Would've included Rove in days gone by, but he clearly has gone off the rails. Maybe CNN's Cooper to do remotes.

No cute blonde eye candy in my lineup (I suppose Cooper fills that void for some.) One night every four years, I can live without Megyn.


Enjoy your bird, or your tofu-urkey if that's your choice. Thanks for reading.

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Posted by Rufus
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Nov 24, 2012 at 12:07 pm

For fans of irony...

Romney is standing at 47.503600% of the popular vote, with a few million more votes to be added, mostly from western states and the Sandy-struck states, mostly blue.

That will soon put Romney at 47.49% or less, which rounds Romneys vote down to 47%.

The 47 percenter gets 47% of the vote.

In the meantime, the presidents margin of victory now exceeds 4 million votes.

Don't know what I enjoy more:
- reading the silly extremist predictions missing by so much
- or Romney getting 47% of the vote

Thank you Plam Reader. I appreciate you're holding the fringe and their noise to account.

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Posted by Palm Reader
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Nov 26, 2012 at 1:32 pm

Mr Treller - nice post.

Rufus - thanks.

For those playing at home... Mr 47% is now at 47%! Technically, Romney is at 47.48%, but we can now all round it off to 47%. Web Link

With California and New York each having another million ballots each to count, it seems a sure thing that Romney ends with 47% of the popular vote, matching his 47% outlook of America.

Sweet irony.

Anyone surprised that the so-called 'personal responsibility and accountability' crowd don't seem to want to own their own statements?

Yeah, me neither.

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Posted by Wisconsin
a resident of another community
on Nov 30, 2012 at 4:26 pm

How about in those other sections where conservaticves claimed Romney was going to take Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and scott Walker leading the way?

Wisconsin becomes 21st state to certify its results:
Barack Obama 1,620,985
Mitt Romney 1,410,966

Obama by 7%

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Posted by Palm Reader
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Jan 2, 2013 at 4:56 pm

Final numbers are in. Barack Obama broke 51%, beating MR 47%

@BarackObama 65,899,557 (51.06%), @MittRomney 60,931,959 (47.21%)

That makes only one president to get 51% of the vote twice, since Ike.

Your president and mine, President Barack H Obama.

The only one.

Web Link

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Posted by insanity - same thing over & over
a resident of Menlo Park: Felton Gables
on Jan 3, 2013 at 5:59 pm

some peeps never learn

"At noon today, I introduced the first bill of the 113th Congress to repeal Obamacare in its entirety."
— @MicheleBachmann via
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Posted by Name hidden
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle

on May 29, 2017 at 12:58 am

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