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With reluctance, Menlo Park approves El Camino Real street development near Stanford's Middle Plaza project

Original post made on Mar 10, 2022

In a reversal, Menlo Park City Council voted to remove parking spots by a strip of El Camino Real businesses to move forward with installations of a two-feet wide median and a crosswalk.

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Posted by Observer
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Mar 10, 2022 at 11:38 am

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When can we vote to replace the 3 progressives on the city council.


Posted by Michael
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Mar 10, 2022 at 12:23 pm

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Bravo! Cars are already dedicated enough space.


Posted by dana hendrickson
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Mar 10, 2022 at 12:33 pm

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Buffered bike lanes are NOT safe facilities for bicyclists riding on a highway like El Camino, especially one with more than 50 active entrances/exits. . A few years ago - as part of the El Camino Corridor Study- the city bike commission proposed buffered bike lanes and the city actually REJECTED a field trial. It is noteworthy that the city DID have a budget for a bike safety study but never approved one. So a bike safety study has NOT been performed.

I believe a bike consultant like Alta Plan + Design would only endorse bike lanes on El Camino IF they are PHYSICALLY separate from traffic. Spend the money and end the misconception that buffered bike lanes make sense. This "opinion-based" view has persisted way too long.


Posted by Brian
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Mar 10, 2022 at 8:57 pm

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The loss of the parking spaces will adversely impact the businesses. Their small parking lot is often full and parking on El Camino is convenient and necessary for them. Parking across the street at Stanford's property is not convenient and people won't do it, which I am sure they know already. It is a mistake to eliminate those spots.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Mar 11, 2022 at 7:47 am

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In my daily walks I have "discovered" a perfectly acceptable bicycle/walking route from Encinal to Middle Ave:

Garwood Way from Encinal to Oak Grove

Merrill St from Oak Grove to Ravenswood

Parking lots from Ravenswood to Middle - once the construction of Stanford complex is completed.

With minimal effort/cost this route could be turned into a protected bike route that would be much safer than ECR and which would not cause massive traffic jams on ECR.




Posted by Observer
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Mar 11, 2022 at 9:41 am

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Peter,
Pity they decided against tunneling CalTrain 10 years ago. The perfect bike and pedestrian route on top of it.


Posted by dana hendrickson
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Mar 11, 2022 at 9:44 am

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Yes, Peter. And there is another option for bicyclists

Garwood Way from Encinal to Glenwood

Alma from Glenwood to Palo Alto

There are convenient connections at Glenwood, Oak Grove, Ravenswood (and in the future at Middle) for riders traveling WITHIN Menlo Park.

Bike lanes on El Camino are an unnecessary "nice-to-have" facility re: the convenience for riders traveling BETWEEN Palo Alto and Atherton but unnecessary and less safe than available alternatives.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Mar 11, 2022 at 8:19 pm

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Sadly unprotected bike lanes on ECR will lead to deaths and then there will be all sorts of recriminations - and certainly attractive nuisance law suits against the city. Remember the response to the predictable death at the Ravenswood train crossing which was caused by the defect design of that crossing.

Avoid these costs and the certain deaths of unprotected bike paths on ECR and invest instead on great protected bike paths on parallel routes.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Mar 17, 2022 at 5:03 pm

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Note:

"A 13-year-old bicyclist was struck and killed in Mountain View Thursday morning, police said.

The teenager was hit by a transport truck at about 8:15 a.m. at the intersection of El Camino Real and Grant Road, according to police.

The teen was treated at the scene and transported to a hospital, where he was later pronounced dead, police said."


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Mar 21, 2022 at 9:34 am

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Here is exactly what Menlo Park needs to avoid:

"On Thursday, March 17, a 13-year-old student at Graham Middle School died at the intersection of El Camino Real and Grant Road. He died on the street that has consistently killed and injured the most people in the city for the past decade. The project to add bike lanes on El Camino Real, despite being in the works for years, did nothing to help him because it is still just a plan. And that plan, in the name of avoiding even the slightest inconvenience to car drivers, will still not provide concrete separation of the bike lanes along all of El Camino Real because to do so would require encroaching somewhat onto the 6-8 lanes given over to cars."

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