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Hydrogen fuel station planned for Skylonda

Original post made on Mar 28, 2015

Electric cars and their charging stations have had the alternative-fuel spotlight mostly to themselves in Silicon Valley in recent years. By the end of October, however, they will have challengers, in Skylonda and along the Peninsula.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, March 27, 2015, 9:52 AM

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Posted by Hans
a resident of Woodside: other
on Mar 28, 2015 at 9:25 am

Very exciting news. I believe that hydrogen is the future, not only for cars but for small neighborhood power generation as well. There was much controversy over service station installents when gasoline vehicles were first introduced. Gasoline is much more of a danger then hydrogen.


Posted by Tom G
a resident of Woodside: Skywood/Skylonda
on Apr 1, 2015 at 6:47 pm

It's gonna be a long time before anybody fills up their car with H2 there. There are only 200 H2 cars in the state (a test fleet with no private owners), and Toyota has said they can sell only a few hundred in the US this year. They cost about $60K.

What a waste of $2.1M of our tax money.


Posted by Tom G
a resident of Woodside: Skywood/Skylonda
on Apr 2, 2015 at 4:48 am

THere are now about 200 Hydrogen cars in CA. ABout 200 - 300 more will arrive by the end of the year. The state has spent $50,000,000 so far on hydrogen infrastructure: over $100,000 per car. Hydrogen cars cost about $60K, about 2x that of a Nissan Leaf electric car. Most / all H2 cars will be leased by the state or corporate fleets this year.

Meanwhile, we have over 130,000 electric cars. The state has spent far less total on electric vehicle charging infrastructure. The state has funded about 10 DC fast charging stations along highways, but the first will not be operational until early this year.

What is wrong with this picture?


Posted by Ron P
a resident of another community
on May 3, 2015 at 7:55 pm

Tom G. is in distinguished company: googling "extremely silly" immediately brings up Elon Musk's insightful analysis of hydrogen fuel cell cars. Somehow this is the opposite of googling "the meaning of life" and getting Monty Python.

To those concerned about the several hours it takes to recharge an electric vehicle, Tom has the answer: soon California will have ten DC fast charging stations, which will reduce charging times from two hours to one or better. If each charging station can accommodate three cars at the same time, that will allow a total of 30 electric vehicles to be refueled every hour, or less if the charging time is shorter. California's 130,000 electric vehicles will therefore each have to wait a mere 130,000/30 = 4333 hours or six months for their turn at their nearest DC fast charging station, or nine months if no one wants to refuel between 11 pm and 7 am.

Problem solved: Tom neglected to mention that the majority of California's 130,000 "electric" vehicles are actually plug-in hybrids that can be refuelled in five minutes at any of California's eight thousand gas stations. Musk's epithet would therefore seem most appropriate for those unfortunate owners who were talked into omitting the range-extending internal combustion engine available with GM's Volt, Ford's Energi, and BMW's i3 but not the Tesla, Nissan Leaf, or Mercedes ED models.

Personally I'm looking forward to driving a hydrogen car ASAP, with the range and refuelling time of a gasoline car and even less of a carbon footprint than a battery EV if the hydrogen is obtained from the Woodside station, assuming it uses solar power to electrolyze its hydrogen. Battery EV's that charge from the grid inherit the grid's carbon footprint, which is many years away from dropping to zero, while those that charge from solar panels on your roof can't be charged that way if you drive them to work each day.


Posted by Menlo Voter
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on May 3, 2015 at 8:22 pm

Menlo Voter is a registered user.

Ron P:

There you go with facts instead of feel good nonsense. Stop it. lol


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