Posted by PV Community Member, a resident of the Portola Valley: Ladera neighborhood, on Sep 29, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Here's hoping that the new Town of Portola Valley committee will help bring more positive light to the cycling community. Yes, some cyclists misbehave on occasion, as do drivers of cars and trucks. This article makes it seem like the cyclists are the ones at fault -- even when run over from behind by a 22-wheel big rig. The sheriffs would be plenty busy ticketing motorists who fail to make complete stops at Alpine and Portola, and enforcing the speed limit in front of the Ladera Shopper. Everyone: Be careful out there, obey the law, and spread positive action in our communities.
Posted by another PV rez, a resident of the Portola Valley: Brookside Park neighborhood, on Sep 30, 2011 at 10:41 am
Donald - you may be right, but these "peloton" are often longer than a 16 wheeler!
The cyclists that cause dangerous situations are often having to deal with a crash in the heart of the group and they swerve wildly to avoid each other. Perhaps they also need to separate with enough distance to react appropriately?
Posted by marc, a resident of the Menlo Park: other neighborhood, on Sep 30, 2011 at 11:56 am
The horse incident is not accurate--
Those horses were on a trail next to the road 10 yrds down and 10 yrds to the right of the Portola. Only the last few riders could see them.
A woman was not yelling stop or slow down. She was screaming in panic and I could not hear any words. She had between 50 and 100yrds to slow the horse and she did not. Then the horse went up to the street where the trail ended at a driveway. At this point it slipped to almost 45% and so did the rider and ran into to oncoming traffic lane just before Old La Honda. I tried to warn oncoming cars to slow down. I saw this looking back from the very back of the pack because I heard far away screaming. Then another out of control horse with rider properly mounted took the same route and did not slip. A few riders slowed down to help this second horse and the 1st horse --without rider and they did just past when Portola splits towards 84. The horses did not turn left with the pack (it was far away) as we were slowing them down and they were gassed by then. I would say only a few riders knew anything about this at the time and the horses though intimidating were not too fast on the road so they never really got close to catching the pack. These horses very likely should not be anywhere near a road with cars, bikes, kids, dogs, etc. They should be on trails without distractions, or properly trained.
Posted by Donald, a resident of another community, on Oct 1, 2011 at 9:11 am
How far back would you stay from a 16-wheeler? They have huge blind spots so you need to stay way back from them in order for the driver to see you and for you to be able to see around them. No difference with a group of bikes. Nothing good comes from following them too closely; it makes the cyclists nervous and they keep checking behind to see what you are up to when they should be paying attention to things in front of them.
Posted by A Person, a resident of another community, on Oct 7, 2011 at 3:42 pm
When a horse has been spooked (which can happen even with the most 'bomb-proof' horse, given the right (or wrong) circumstances,) the right thing for any motorist, pedestrian or bicyclist to do is to stop and wait until the situation resolves itself.
Please share this with your bicycle friends. If the pelaton did not stop, they did the wrong thing and need to learn how to do the right thing.
Your comment about "properly trained" was ignorant. Even highly trained police horses have been known to panic under exceptional circumstances (like the one at Candlestick Park that got a plastic bag caught in his bridle and bolted.)
If you want everyone to "share the road" with bikes, then perhaps you should learn how "share" as well. Sharing means, at times, putting the safety of others before your own selfish interests.