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DA Wagstaffe: FBI investigation 'manufactured'

Original post made on Feb 22, 2011

San Mateo County District Attorney Steve Wagstaffe isn't buying the allegation that his office is being investigated by the FBI. "This whole FBI thing has been manufactured ... there's no FBI investigation, in my belief," he said last week.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 11:09 AM

Comments (94)

Posted by Holly L., a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Feb 22, 2011 at 11:31 am

Wagstaffe doesn't know what he's talking about. There IS an FBI investigation into him and his office.

Why would they contact him when he's the one being investigated?

He sounds nervous.


Posted by Peter Carpenter, a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Feb 22, 2011 at 12:00 pm

I do not recall anyone who was being investigated by the FBI acknowledging that fact - until they were in handcuffs.


Posted by old timer, a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Feb 22, 2011 at 12:08 pm

Carpenter makes the right point.

I would hope they would look into the "cover up" of the Fergusson Brown act incident. I still don't know just what he did. He didn't interview all the council persons. He didn't release the name of the third party. He didn't criticize the obvious attempt by McClure to cover up the incident.

I haven't even seen any council person even bring up that Fergusson should be publicly censured for what she did. Its like who cares, it happens all the time; business as usual.

Disgusting.


Posted by music to my ears, a resident of another community
on Feb 22, 2011 at 12:27 pm

Mr. Wagstaffe you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.


Posted by Lurker, a resident of another community
on Feb 22, 2011 at 12:42 pm

Mr. Wagstaffe is known for being hyper-controlling about the information he doles out to the press.

It must be driving him nuts that he can't control the FBI story.


Posted by concerned citizen, a resident of Atherton: other
on Feb 22, 2011 at 12:43 pm

Double, double, toil and trouble. Like the three Witches in MacBeth, John Johns, Jon Buckheit and Peter Carpenter are stirring up the pot with evil intentions.


Posted by Holly L., a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Feb 22, 2011 at 12:53 pm

Concerned Citizen:

There are others - people who don't live anywhere near Atherton - who have been interviewed by the FBI.


Posted by Steve White, a resident of another community
on Feb 22, 2011 at 12:54 pm

I don't know if Wagstaffe has done anything which will get him in trouble with the FBI, but it's easy to believe he's got things to hide, for example, his email of encouragement ot the Sheriff who got caught in the brothel raid, posted by another concerned citizen, and his misleading statements to an appeals court essentially to renege on a plea bargain his own office had made with the man, and the fact that, in the eyes of the Fox, the former DA, the cops are never wrong, a policy which Wagstaffe lived with literally for decades, all show you this guy has some serious character defects.

Also, as far as the "hard working men and women in the DA's office" who are apparentlty being libeled and slandered -- Steve, it's not necessarily THEM people are complaining about. It's YOU.


Posted by POGO, a resident of Woodside: other
on Feb 22, 2011 at 1:21 pm

Mr. Wagstaff said, "....interviewing someone in and of itself doesn't constitute an investigation."

But Mr. Wagstaff's staff didn't even interview Ms. Fergusson when she was being investigated. What does that mean?


Posted by bob, a resident of Woodside: other
on Feb 22, 2011 at 2:10 pm

This whole seems full of BS and people including the DA all have self interest in this. If there is an investigation it will surface in due time. It seems to me people should get on with their lives and let the FBI do its job , if it is doing anything.


Posted by Ed, a resident of Atherton: other
on Feb 22, 2011 at 2:23 pm

Yikes
The old San Mateo County "Closed Loop" system that always dead ended at the the DA's office is looking more and more like a tightening noose.


Posted by Wm. Shakespeare, a resident of another community
on Feb 22, 2011 at 4:24 pm

"Fair is foul, and foul is fair" is a much more relevant line from my play!


Posted by Michael G. Stogner, a resident of another community
on Feb 22, 2011 at 5:32 pm

Hey Steve White,

Haven't heard from you in a long time, welcome back!


Posted by PR Agency, a resident of another community
on Feb 22, 2011 at 5:45 pm

Hey, Wagstaffe, your comment in this article {portion deleted - avoid name-calling]. For future reference, this could have been handled by the following comment:

"I am not aware of any investigation of my office by the FBI. Should the FBI or any other agency need or desire to investigate the San Mateo District Attorney's office, we will cooperate fully with any such investigation."

See? That leaves you smelling like a rose. [portion delted.]


Posted by POGO, a resident of Woodside: other
on Feb 22, 2011 at 7:30 pm

From the movie, Michael Clayton...

It's 3:00am and Clayton, a "fixer" attorney, is standing in the kitchen with a wealthy client and his wife. The client, while speeding on a deserted country road in the middle of the night, just hit a bicyclist and left the scene.

Michael Clayton: There's no play here. There's no angle. There's no champagne room. I'm not a miracle worker, I'm a janitor. The math on this is simple. The smaller the mess the easier it is for me to clean up.

[phone rings]

Mr. Greer: [points to the phone] That's the police isn't it?

Michael Clayton: No. They don't call.


Posted by Lurker, a resident of another community
on Feb 23, 2011 at 6:35 am

From Mercury News in January

"New San Mateo District Attorney Will Stick with Old Ways"

Steve Wagstaffe, who was sworn in as San Mateo County's new district attorney Thursday evening, said he isn't the type to shake things up or blaze new trails in law enforcement.
After more than three decades in the county office, including 19 spent as the right-hand man of outgoing district attorney Jim Fox, Wagstaffe said things are going as well as can be expected.
"If there was a call for big changes, Jim and I would have made them a long time ago," Wagstaffe said. "Jim and I disagreed on very little when it came to prosecutorial philosophy."

Web Link


Posted by Holly L., a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Feb 23, 2011 at 9:41 am

[Post removed. Irrelevant to the topic.]


Posted by Manufactured??, a resident of another community
on Feb 23, 2011 at 3:21 pm

[Post removed. Guilt by association, accusations of murder, etc., are not appropriate for this forum. ]


Posted by Menlo Voter, a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Feb 23, 2011 at 3:44 pm

Manufactured:

if you have some information regarding the shooting that suggests it is anything but a case of self defense, I suggest you contact teh DA's office or police department in that jurisdiction. Otherwise you are excercising pure conjecture when you label it a "murder."


Posted by Michael G. Stogner, a resident of another community
on Feb 23, 2011 at 4:29 pm

Dear FBI,

You have just received your "To those who matter" message form our District Attorney Steve Wagstaffe.

Good Luck


Posted by FBI investigation, a resident of another community
on Feb 23, 2011 at 5:40 pm

The only thing this investigation will turn up is the need for those frequenting this forum to get a life. These baseless investigations are hurting law enforcement's ability to fight real crime. Please quit wasting our tax dollars on these politically motivated, wild goose chases.


Posted by Lurker, a resident of another community
on Feb 23, 2011 at 5:59 pm

To FBI investigation:

As Shakespeare said in the Merchant of Venice:

"Give me your blessing: truth will come
to light; murder cannot be hid long; a man's son
may, but at the length truth will out."


Posted by Michael G. Stogner, a resident of another community
on Feb 23, 2011 at 6:01 pm

FBI Investigation,

"These baseless investigations are hurting law enforcement's ability to fight real crime."

Thank You for your insight, Only crimes committed by citizens are real.

Those committed by Police Officers and Government Officials are not real.


Posted by Ed, a resident of Atherton: other
on Feb 24, 2011 at 12:33 am

FBI investigation:
Your post above is confusing to me --maybe intentionally so--with your remark "politically motivated wild goose chase".
Please explain what could be so upsetting to you about residents who require both fairness and the expectation of justified confidence in their law enforcement and County Officials?
Unfortunately, It is all too natural, for good governance to drift off balance towards the pressures of special interests and to slowly wear away on the better judgement of elected officials. This will always happen even under the best of circumstances, and will always need occasional correction.
The Law actually exists to eliminate the need for a lot of judgement calls by any of us---but ethical leadership and impartial implementation of the law by sworn officials will only be sustained with everyone's vigilance. Loyalty has to be to ideals-- not the persons who populate these institutions or that hide in the side office. The falsely accused are the most natural sentries to protect values we all aspire to take for granted. Who else might be more passionate? Or more entitled to speak out?
How much you wanna bet there aren't plenty of blue uniforms secretly grateful that some regular citizens are trying to help clean some of this up for them because they care enough to?


Posted by Peter Carpenter, a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Feb 24, 2011 at 2:19 am

I think that almost all (excepting those whose public conduct may be found wanting) of the citizens and public servants in both Atherton and San Mateo County will take comfort that there has been a true arms-length enquiry into the frequent allegations of public misconduct - regardless of the outcome. If there has been malfeasance then those who are exposed will be held accountable. If the current enquiries do not result in further investigations and, where appropriate, prosecutions then we can set aside the allegations that have been made and move on. Either way we are all well served by the current enquiries.


Posted by Tim Wulff, a resident of another community
on Feb 25, 2011 at 9:26 am

Sometimes investigations are conducted with the intention of revealing the truth.

Sometimes investigations are conducted with the intention of discrediting those who raise allegations and providing an enhancement of the credibility of those conduct is questioned.

Which do you think occurred here?


Posted by Holly L., a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Feb 25, 2011 at 11:21 am

I have been interviewed by the FBI. Rest assured; this investigation is in good hands.

I believe that if one makes a deep commitment to unearthing the truth, the evidence has a way of rising up and revealing itself.


Posted by Lurker, a resident of another community
on Feb 25, 2011 at 1:44 pm

The news reports have stated that the FBI is looking for anyone who has worked in the DA's office with knowledge of misconduct to come forward. I would imagine that they are looking for anyone who has worked in the San Mateo Sheriff's office or whistleblowers from the County police departments to come forward as well.

The DA's office is supposed to protect the citizens from crime - not cover for those who work for San Mateo who have committed criminal acts.


Posted by Holly L., a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Feb 25, 2011 at 1:51 pm

I understand that the San Francisco Chronicle is working on a story about the FBI investigation.


Posted by POGO, a resident of Woodside: other
on Feb 25, 2011 at 2:00 pm

Memo to District Attorney Wagstaff and the Atherton Town Council -

This isn't going to go away.


Posted by Holly L., a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Feb 25, 2011 at 3:12 pm

Pogo:

This is not just limited to misconduct in Atherton. Not by a long shot. People who don't even live in the county have been interviewed by the FBI.


Posted by Ed, a resident of Atherton: other
on Feb 25, 2011 at 7:24 pm

All past, and most current members of the Atherton Town Council would rather "die before ever admitting that they have ignored obvious problems" that have festered their way into the status quo for years now. Hopefully the mayor will finally get on board once the tide has turned.


Posted by Tim Wulff, a resident of another community
on Feb 25, 2011 at 9:59 pm

Until the FBI publicly acknowledges its investigation into the County in general, and invites all those citizens who have personal experience with or physical evidence of miscreant acts of governmental official, then, and only then will they establish the credibility of what they're doing.

Otherwise, Steve is right. And he's been around the block, after all.

I know people who have extended themselves to the FBI who have large files of evidence on many cases. No one called.

How does this reconcile with these reports?


Posted by John P Johns, a resident of another community
on Feb 25, 2011 at 10:23 pm

I have filed a criminal complaint against Atherton and the San Mateo County Office of the District Attorney. The charge is deprivation of my civil rights under color of law. This is a federal crime with a statute of limitations of 7 years.

I encourage others similarly affected to do the same.

Those who have evidence in support of their allegations. Will be heard.

I however would caution those who have little more to offer than conjecture or suspicion to approach the FBI. These folks have limited resources and can only afford to pursue bona fide leads, supported by solid evidence.

In my case I have offered such evidence and I have every confidence that my complaint is being taken very seriously.

I can also assure Mr. Wagstaffe that the investigation of his office is by no means "manufactured". I am not the only one who has complained and the grievances I have voiced pale in comparison to what has been shared with the FBI.


Posted by Holly L., a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Feb 26, 2011 at 4:51 am

Having been interviewed by the FBI, I have a pretty good idea of their target and the kinds of people they are looking to come forward at this juncture. They are looking for insiders-
people who have WORKED for the County with direct knowledge of federal crimes being committed - to come forward.

Remember, the FBI investigates FEDERAL crimes.

Think big, big picture. As I've said, this is NOT just about Atherton.

And to Tim Wulff: In general, the FBI does not make a practice of commenting on their investigations to the public.

In fact, they won't even confirm the investigation to people they've already interviewed.


Posted by Common sense, a resident of another community
on Feb 26, 2011 at 11:58 am

Let's cut the crap. Yes, anyone can walk into an FBI office and tell their story.

Here it seems the FBI has spoken with multiple people. Does it rise to the level of an "investigation"? I guess that depends how you define it.

But just the fact that they are talking with multiple people about the behavior of the SM district attorney and Atherton officials (presumably cops) can't be anything but a bad reflection on how they have behaved.

Hopefully even if nothing comes of this, it will give them reason to think about whether they can continue to exercise poor judgment with total impunity on an ongoing basis.


Posted by JT, a resident of another community
on Feb 26, 2011 at 12:34 pm

If John Johns, Peter Carpenter, "Holly" and others have actually met with FBI agents, it should be easy for them to identify those agents by name either on this blog or to the reporters for the newspapers who have quoted them about the FBI investigation.

I believe I know who the agents are. One is named "Scully" and the other is "Mulder." They work in a special part of the FBI. In fact, Mulder's desk is in the basement of the J. Edgar Hoover Building.

They're investigating a UFO that landed here about 70 years ago and hatched an alien baby that grew up, developed an interest in fires (of all things) , the Brown Act and of his own self-importance. They believe that this alien now lives in Atherton, and they're hoping to catch him one day.

Yes, such a UFO investigation sounds far fetched. Just as far fetched as this supposed FBI investigation into all things Atherton and the District Attorney's office. Many of you on this blog sound like clucking chickens. Let's revisit this subject in a year and see what happened.


Posted by Peter Carpenter, a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Feb 26, 2011 at 2:46 pm

JT - you are simply wrong, and sadly so.


Posted by scooter, a resident of another community
on Feb 26, 2011 at 5:07 pm

I met with two agents in the san Francisco field office

If JT wants confirmation ask the FBI if its carpet is being replaced


Posted by JT, a resident of another community
on Feb 26, 2011 at 6:23 pm

As you all know, the FBI has a policy that it will neither confirm nor deny that it is conducting an investigation. That policy allows this hoax to continue. But if you post the names of the agent or agents you met, it's easy to confirm whether they actually exist.

Ultimately, time will tell whether any of you are telling the truth.

Of course, if they were investigating the police, city hall or D.A., don't you think they would raid those offices first to secure the records they need to carry out this investigation? How can you investigate government misconduct without records from the agency being investigated?

I can't wait to read the creative responses to that!


Posted by POGO, a resident of Woodside: other
on Feb 26, 2011 at 8:51 pm

JT -

If you think every investigation STARTS with a raid, you've seen too many movies. How about interviewing people first...


Posted by John P Johns, a resident of another community
on Feb 26, 2011 at 9:05 pm

JT suggests it is impossible to conduct an investigation without raiding the offices of a government agency.

JT hasn't heard of the California Public Records Act. There is a tremendous amount of information one can get via this channel and then feed to the feds.

JT insists we provide the identity of the FBI agents conducting the investigation. This is an unseemly request from one who makes such a demand anonymously.


Posted by Holly L., a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Feb 26, 2011 at 9:40 pm

JT:

Even if you were to learn the names of the two FBI agents, they will not confirm that they are investigating. As I said, they won't even talk about what they are up to with the people they've already interviewed.

Instead, why don't you help us find people who've worked for the County who have knowledge of misconduct?


Posted by JT = Atherton Dispatcher?, a resident of Atherton: other
on Feb 26, 2011 at 11:03 pm

Don't even bother responding to "JT". I believe s/he's a cop, and full well knows that the subjects of investigations are usually not given forewarning of the investigation, and for obvious reasons. As John Johns aptly stated, the Atherton Police Department and San Mateo County District Attorney's office have generated enough records in the hands of people who have been victimized by them to provide fodder for an investigation.

Additionally, a highly credible member of the community, Peter Carpenter, who has served in leadership roles not only in private industry and academia, but also in government, has vouched for this investigation. The denials of "JT" are just ongoing attempts by the Atherton Police Department to discredit ANYBODY who disagrees with them or speaks out in criticism, no matter the professional, educational, or positional credentials (Carpenter, Buckheit, McKeithen).


Posted by Menlo Voter, a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Feb 27, 2011 at 10:28 am

JT:

clearly you haven't clue what it takes to get a search warrant so you can conduct a "raid." Probable cause is required. Probable cause is developed in an invetigation. So you have the cart before the horse. Investigation comes first, search warrants follow. Get it?


Posted by John P Johns, a resident of another community
on Feb 27, 2011 at 11:19 am

Dear Menlo Voter

On the afternoon of August 27, 2007 the Atherton Police Department conducted a raid on my office without probable cause. Former Chief Robert Brennan gave the order. Officers Kristin Nichols, Tim Marks and Tim Lynch participated in the raid with Detective Sherman Hall assisting after the fact.

In conducting its raid on my office without probable cause, the Atherton Police Department violated my constitutional right to privacy under color of authority. This is a federal crime with a statute of limitations of seven years.

An internal affairs investigation is in progress in response to my citizen's complaint over the incident.

I have also filed a criminal complaint with the FBI. My complaint to the FBI is not limited to Atherton and this particular incident however.

So "JT" is right, a law enforcement agency doesn't need probable cause to conduct a raid. However if it does conduct a raid without probable cause, it does so at its own peril.

Some said I should "get a life" and "go find another gravy train". I'm not letting up, not until criminals clad in blue and adorned with a badge are brought to justice.


Posted by Lurker, a resident of another community
on Feb 27, 2011 at 11:30 am

To: John P. Johns:

Aren't you forgetting that guy in the suit at the San Mateo District Attorney's office? Shouldn't he be brought to justice, too?


Posted by Menlo Voter, a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Feb 27, 2011 at 4:09 pm

John:

yes, the police can make a raid without a search warrant. My comments were in regard to the LEGAL process required if the police agency conducting the raid actually wants to be able to use any evidence in a court of law or doesn't want to be looking at an action such as yours for violation of civil rights. So, I stand by what I said - JT has the cart before the horse. The only exception is "exigent circumstances." Neither this case nor yours come anywhere near the level of exigent circumstances. What the APD did in your case is simply a violation of your civil rights and I am sure you will prevail in pursuit of justice for those violations.


Posted by neighbor, a resident of Portola Valley: other
on Feb 27, 2011 at 5:16 pm

Who really cares anyway about the FBI - all govt. offices have skeletons in their closets, including the FBI !!!

ps. Why do we always need to put on our glasses to uncode a code ?


Posted by To Steve White, a resident of another community
on Feb 27, 2011 at 7:32 pm

Can you tell me when that person posted the email of support from Wagstaffe to Munks? I did a search of this forum & couldn't find it. Very intrigued, want to read it. I was incensed about that brothel visit, and I'm no prude. He should've been dismissed from his post - but that's another topic! Thanks.


Posted by Lurker, a resident of another community
on Feb 27, 2011 at 7:43 pm

Steve Wagstaffe e-mail sent 4/25/07 10:20 AM

Greg and Carlos
Just a quick word of support from me as you go through a difficult time. To those who matter, your decades of outstanding work in law enforcement are all that count and your integrity is not the slightest marked by the modern media's efforts to make a story out of a non-story. Hard as it is to think it now, remember it will be yesterday's news and irrelevant by tomorrow.

My positive thoughts are out there for both of you.
Steve

4/25/2007 4:49 PM Greg Munks to Steve Wagstaffe

"thanks Steve.."

In response, Munks wrote: "Steve, I really appreciate your words of support.... I've heard you took some heat for them and I apologize. I won't forget the fact that you were there early."


Posted by John P Johns, a resident of another community
on Feb 27, 2011 at 8:13 pm

To Lurker:

I haven't forgotten about the guy in the suit at the County Building. He's included in the criminal complaint I submitted.

I have been in contact with others who have told their stories to the FBI. As bad as my experience was with the Atherton PD and with the DA, their stories are far more compelling than mine.

To Menlo Voter:

You made your comment from the perspective of one who has respect for the rule of law. I made my comment as a victim of police officers who did not feel constrained by the rule of law. They acted as though they were above the law.

Until now, the cover that Wagstaffe as DA gave for law enforcement in San Mateo County served as a kind of immunity - That was then, this is now.

Wagstaffe says the investigation is "manufactured". Wagstaffe is whistling past the graveyard.

The involvement of the FBI is a game changer.


Posted by Hmmm, a resident of another community
on Feb 27, 2011 at 8:14 pm

Thanks, lurker! Wow, disturbing. If there were unfounded accusations, that would be a nice email exchange, but since it *did* happen, it's disturbing. I remember both Carlos & Greg when they were at PAPD. I always wondered about the timing of that raid & there was a lot of speculation from the rank & file as well. I also wonder what happened to those women,the people running that nasty place & what Carlos & Greg's previous experience at those sort of places may have been. It was Nevada - a pretty easy place to find it legally.


Posted by Thomas, a resident of Menlo Park: Sharon Heights
on Feb 27, 2011 at 9:20 pm

The chickens continue to cluck. The satire that JT describes actually demonstrates the lightness in weight of those that continue to complain about a corrupt San Mateo County government. Where was all the outrage less than a year ago when the current District Attorney ran unopposed in the June primary and publicly stated that he would continue to manage the department as his protege Attorney Fox? With all the alleged corruption and malfeasance that has been posted by the handful of people on this blog, it would seem to me that someone with a law degree specializing in criminal justice could have been found to run against Mr. Wagstaffe for the $260,000 a year job. This is nothing more than one individual's attempt to try and cause trouble because he was unhappy with the D.A.'s decision not to prosecute a vaguely worded and unenforceable 57 year old law on the books that to date no one has ever been prosecuted.


Posted by Holly L., a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Feb 27, 2011 at 10:27 pm

[Post removed. Posting under more than one name.]


Posted by Thomas, a resident of Menlo Park: Sharon Heights
on Feb 27, 2011 at 10:49 pm

"Holly L"...aka "None", you might have more credibility if you did not post using multiple names and have your posts removed due to the innuendo you continue to publish. Perhaps you could name the FBI agents you met with as JT suggests and enlighten us as to "what's really going on" since you claim to be in the know.


Posted by Hmmm, a resident of another community
on Feb 27, 2011 at 11:08 pm

I'm inclined to believe there's an investigation because I recall the investigation(s) in EPA due to excessive use of force & violations of civil rights by EPA police officers. While what happened then has no bearing on what's going on now, my inclination to believe is due to a bit of knowledge as to how the FBI operates in these cases. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

I wish Wagstgaffe wasn't DA, nor Munks sheriff; never liked either of them, wouldn't vote for them for dogcatcher, as my grandpa used to say.


Posted by Holly L., a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Feb 28, 2011 at 4:01 am

[Post removed; using more than one name in a single thread violates terms of use.]


Posted by Peter Carpenter, a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Feb 28, 2011 at 6:39 am

The names of the two FBI agents are widely know among well informed peninsula citizens and their investigation will proceed where the facts lead them. Whatever the outcome, I think all of will be reassured by the results of such an independent investigation.

As for who pulled the fire alarm to start this investigation - that is of no importance, only that after lots of complaints about the smoke of government impropriety someone finally decided to see if there is actually a fire of government impropriety. My role, as stated above, was simply to transmit the alarm, which was pulled by individuals with evidence of potential improprieties, to the right people.

I know that Thomas and others wish they I has instead helped maintain the code of silence that has prevailed but that is not my style.


Posted by Michael G. Stogner, a resident of another community
on Feb 28, 2011 at 8:58 am

This Investigation is long over due. For over 10 years that I know of, people have been reporting to the Board of Supervisors their complaints of Abuse of Discretion of the District Attorneys Office. Think about it, this office is the most powerful office in the county. With no oversight, performance auditing of complaints vs. charges filed and no single point data base to keep track of complaints, how would anybody know if the DA's office is behaving properly.

Prosecutorial misconduct in San Mateo County is unchecked. That can't be good for anybody.


Posted by Anon, a resident of Atherton: other
on Feb 28, 2011 at 8:59 am

Pete says: "I think all of will be reassured." And: "I know that Thomas and others wish they I has instead helped maintain the code of silence." I know what a stickler you are for perfect grammar from other posters. Can you clarify your early morning statements regarding this subject???


Posted by Peter Carpenter, a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Feb 28, 2011 at 9:06 am

Corrections:
Whatever the outcome, I think all of us will be reassured by the results of such an independent investigation.

And:

I know that Thomas and others wish that I had instead helped maintain the code of silence that has prevailed, but that is not my style.


Posted by sharpshooter, a resident of Portola Valley: Westridge
on Feb 28, 2011 at 3:12 pm

Posters by going by the names of "JT" and "Thomas" are in denial.

The FBI didn't get interested in Atherton and in the DA because of the DA's refusal to prosecute widespred violations of the Brown Act.

The feds could care less about the Brown Act.

The feds are very interested in public corruption however. This is where there is a linkage to the habitual violations of the Brown act exists.

It's an open secret that city attorneys and their clients use the cover of closed session to hide illegal conduct.

when the illegal conduct of law enforcement and elected officials extends to civil rights violations, and when closed session deliberations are conducted to help the local government agency evade accountability for such criminal conduct, then the FBI is all ears.

So people like Thomas can cackle all he wants about clucking chickens, the fact of the matter is that the Fox and his favorite poodle, Steve Wagstaffe are now the hunted.

On the street this is known as "what goes around comes around".


Posted by JT, a resident of another community
on Mar 1, 2011 at 11:14 am

Time for a progress report from those who claim the FBI is conducting an investigation. It's been more than a month since they said FBI agents began conducting interviews. During that period:

— No subpoenas have been delivered to Atherton police or city offices.

— No search warrants have been executed.

— No arrests have been made.

Yet sloppy FBI agents have allowed those who they have interviewed to blab all over about their investigation. This tells the targets of the investigation that they need to shred documents before the G-men come.

You'd think that if Peter Carpenter and John Johns were really interviewed by FBI agents, they would have been advised to keep their mouths shut. Why would the FBI want news coverage of an ongoing investigation? Particularly when the bureau's policy is to never disclose whether an investigation is taking place. Sure, those interviewed by federal agents have the right to say what they want, but usually they're smart enough to follow the instructions of the investigators.

So that's Month 1 of the Atherton/San Mateo County FBI investigation. Let's check in a month from now to see if anything has happened. After a few months of no progress, it will be time for Carpenter and Johns explain what happened. Can't wait for that.


Posted by POGO, a resident of Woodside: other
on Mar 1, 2011 at 11:38 am

JT -

Some have said you're in denial. I think you're just misinformed.

The fact that an investigation is one month old and there are no subpoenas, search warrants or arrests is hardly alarming. And I thought you were familiar with police work. Perhaps you forgot that it took Atherton's police chief more than a year just to retain an investigator... and that was during an ACTIVE investigation.

You also stated "...sloppy FBI agents have allowed those who they have interviewed to blab all over about their investigation." Really? What's your proof of that? Haven't those that claim to be interviewed stated - explicitly - that they were told NOT to discuss the content or subject of their interviews (and they didn't). No one is ever precluded from saying they were interviewed.

Denial... or deliberate ignorance?


Posted by Jim James, a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Mar 1, 2011 at 12:26 pm

JT's note is most interesting - was this a special message to friends?

"This tells the targets of the investigation that they need to shred documents before the G-men come."

Fortunately, in this electronic age, surveillance and data backup may make this task more difficult, if not to compound problems for friends, if they take any attempt to destroy evidence.


Posted by Jack Kirkpatrick, a resident of another community
on Mar 1, 2011 at 1:08 pm

Being advised is different than being ordered not to blab. Besides, having some information out there may be a technique to see who acts untoward, especially if they are under surveillance or duplicate copies of documents are missing. Disinformation often garners nuggets of information....


Posted by Menlo Voter, a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 1, 2011 at 3:30 pm

POGO:

JT's lack of understanding of how an investigation is conducted doesn't mean he's not familiar with police work, just investigations. I've said it before, the APD isn't good at investigations because they never have anything to investigate and on those occasions where they really do, they turn it over to the Sheriff's Department. You can't know how or get good at investigating if you never do any.

I also think there's a little whistling past the graveyard in JT's post. Complex investigations, and this is likely to be quite complex if the rumours of it's scope are anything to go by, take a great deal of time before subpoenas are issued or arrest and search warrants. I think JT is just hoping that the passage of one month means nothing is going to happen to him and the corrupt players that occupy the criminal justice system in San Mateo County. To that I say, just keep on whistling JT. Your time will come.


Posted by Menlo Voter, a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 1, 2011 at 3:32 pm

Jack is quite right. Leak a little information and see who squirms.


Posted by JT, a resident of another community
on Mar 2, 2011 at 3:38 am

[Post removed.]


Posted by Peter Carpenter, a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Mar 2, 2011 at 5:33 am

JT - Congratulations. I think that you have found your niche - FICTION.


Posted by John P Johns, a resident of another community
on Mar 2, 2011 at 9:14 am

JT:

That was a nice touch with your IRS comment, a hint of an implied threat.

You may know that I'm a CPA. Let me know if you need any help with your taxes. All you need to do is disclose your own identity on this forum. I'll take care of the rest.


Posted by george, a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Mar 2, 2011 at 10:08 am

JT's comment falls into the category of cyber bullying. JT is a cyber coward.

JT asks those who have been interviewed by the FBI to name names, all the while JT writes threatening posts anonymously.


Posted by guilty as charged, a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Mar 2, 2011 at 10:21 am

Wagstaffe has abused his power. He has used the contacts, resources and authority of his office to protect law enforcement and to persecute those who are critical of law enforcement in San Mateo County.

Wagstaffe and his co conspirators in Atherton and other law enforcement agencies will be held accountable.

There have been many who have had the courage to speak out, despite the malicious threats of the likes of "JT" and other friends of Wagstaffe and Atherton posting under assumed names.

This kind of bullying will not stand.


Posted by crimefighter, a resident of Atherton: West of Alameda
on Mar 2, 2011 at 11:01 am

JT should be mindful of the fact that no post on this forum is truly anonymous.

JT should also consider the fact that intimidating witnesses is a felony.


Posted by JT, a resident of another community
on Mar 4, 2011 at 10:01 am

Just checking in with Carpenter, Johns, Stogner, "Holly" and the gang ... How's that FBI investigation going? Any news yet? Have these FBI agents told you what's taking so long?

I think the Almanac should put a "count-up" clock on their home page, showing how long this investigation has taken. Every day the number would increase. I'd say we're at Day 45, is that right guys?

How many days should we go before we declare these FBI reports to be "unfounded"?

50? 60? 65?


Posted by Only me, a resident of another community
on Mar 4, 2011 at 10:12 am

JT: you sound very nervous.

You know 45 days is very short for an investigation. How long did it take APD to investigate Jon Armstrong? How long did it take APD to conduct an internal investigation of the illegal changes to the Buckheit case?


Posted by Peter Carpenter, a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Mar 4, 2011 at 10:13 am

JT - Patience is a virtue;good work takes time.

Besides, who is counting except those who are very nervous. I like that they, and you?, are nervous and counting.


Posted by POGO, a resident of Woodside: other
on Mar 4, 2011 at 10:31 am

JT seems to be pretty concerned about this investigation...


Posted by Michael G. Stogner, a resident of another community
on Mar 4, 2011 at 12:15 pm

JT,

Patience....Patience....Rome wasn't built in a day.

What on earth is causing you to be in such a hurry?

Steve Wagstaffe isn't in any hurry, he couldn't care less, he has already declared there is no investigation...so just sit back and relax....No Worries.


Posted by Jim James, a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Mar 4, 2011 at 12:22 pm

Maybe JT and others would feel better if we all agree it's unfounded. I'll guess that two things can happen... 1) we hear nothing (and we're right, it's unfounded!), or 2) the FBI takes some action (and it isn't!). Either way, it does seem a bit silly worry whether this as unfounded or not, when our opinions won't make a difference anywhichway. Or maybe JT, we should vote?


Posted by Ed, a resident of Atherton: other
on Mar 4, 2011 at 12:43 pm

Another possibility might be that Mr. Johns and other are being interviewed by police officers dressed up as FBI agents as a ploy to give these people a venue to vent but also to assure that nothing gets outside of the County's"closed loop" . This would be in perfect keeping with many other standard M.O. practices used for maintaining the status quo in SMC for decades.
Its a CLUB -- not a government.


Posted by Menlo Voter, a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 4, 2011 at 4:31 pm

JT:

if you knew anything about conducting a complex investigation, you would know they can sometimes take a year. If really comples, enven more time. So, I know your nervous and want to see this resolved quickly, but don't get your panties in a bunch. It will be resolved in due time. I have to say though, that I love watching you and your APD buddies sweat.


Posted by Timeline, a resident of Atherton: other
on Mar 4, 2011 at 8:09 pm

2/10 Almanac article comes out.
3/1 JT declares investigation has been public for 30 days.
3/4 JT declares investigation now 45 days in public eye.

Don't they teach you how to count in the police academy? Comes in handy to figure out how many more years before the 90% kicks in.

Why so sensitive about an investigation? It CAN serve to exonerate you, right? Ask your fellow cops about that oh wait maybe that only happens for sure when you get to choose the investigator?


Posted by chris, a resident of Atherton: other
on Mar 4, 2011 at 8:23 pm

There is a civil rights lawsuit pending against Atherton and the DA. There are also two internal affairs investigations going on. One concerning the Atherton PD and the other concerning the DA.

The types of crimes the FBI investigates have a very long statute of limitations.

The FBI is in no hurry. It doesn't have to be, there are plenty of resources being dedicated towards ferreting out corruption in San Mateo County law enforcement in the moment.

If I were JT, I'd start squeeling on his friends now while he has the chance.

Remember JT, the first one that talks doesn't go to jail.


Posted by News at 11, a resident of another community
on Mar 6, 2011 at 7:34 pm

JT -- last night on ABC news there was a story on police corruption in Danville. At the end of the newscast they said ABC had confirmed that as many as four police departments in the bay area are under federal investigation.

Sorry to burst your bubble.


Posted by Lurker, a resident of another community
on Mar 8, 2011 at 12:17 pm

Why were the last two posts- one by Leaked Video, and one by myself deleted? There is no reason given. If the video is on Youtube already, why won't you allow it here?

Please list the reasons our posts were deleted.


Posted by Lurker, a resident of another community
on Mar 8, 2011 at 12:23 pm

Well, as the moderator deleted the brilliant Youtube video posted by "Leaked Video" here this morning, I recommend that those who want to view it should look it up on Youtube. It's called, "Atherton, California" and it was posted by AthertonSanMateo. And the subject matter is VERY relevant to the discussions in this thread.


Posted by Lurker, a resident of another community
on Mar 8, 2011 at 1:20 pm

The video by Leaked Video that spoofs Wagstaffe has now been posted by the national website, www.websleuths.com.

Here's the link to Websleuths:
Web Link

As the video is now being posted on a number of other websites, it makes no sense that the Almanac continues to censor it.


Posted by Jim James, a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Mar 8, 2011 at 2:09 pm

Here are 5 reasons the Alamanac might have removed the link to YouTube (that said, the video was very entertaining, very well done, close to home...and I forwarded the link on friends).

Excerpts of the Almanac's terms of use statement:
You agree to be respectful of others
You agree not to use any profanity, abusive or offensive to any individual
You agree not to post anything on AlmanacNews.com that is not your original work
You agree not to make posts that links to another Website.
You acknowledge that we are the sole judge of whether the content meets Terms of Use and may edit, remove or lock content you post on AlmanacNews.com at our sole discretion for any reason


Posted by Lurker, a resident of another community
on Mar 8, 2011 at 4:20 pm

Thanks, Jim James. That makes total sense.

In the meantime, everyone can go over to websleuths to enjoy the Youtube video, "Atherton, California", a spoof of DA Steve Wagstaffe getting all upset about the FBI investigation.

Web Link


Posted by Menlo Voter, a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 8, 2011 at 8:28 pm

It's been removed from websleuths also. Hmmmm. Does Wagstaf have thin skin?


Posted by Lurker, a resident of another community
on Mar 9, 2011 at 5:03 am

[Post removed; don't speculate about other people's actions]


Posted by Johnny Rocket, a resident of another community
on Aug 12, 2011 at 7:02 pm

Where's the FBI? Waiting for the other shoe to drop!


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