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SOBER, VALUABLE LESSONS FOR MENLO SLATE POLITICS

Original post made by Put Slates Behind Us on Nov 8, 2006

Menlo Park politicians have learned a tough lesson about slate politics. Net, it's a loser here. What was characterized as the possibility the incumbents would help John Boyle with their coattails instead became a cement overcoat from which John barely escaped politically, despite his reported following in the local schools community going into the race.

Reviewing the final elections count is pretty interesting. Focus on John Boyle on the one hand, and Vince Bressler on the other. Most of the time, it's a safe bet someone voting for Bressler was probably voting for Robinson and Cline. Hard to see such a voter who favored him on the merits then voting for a slate candidate by and large. However, pretty obviously this wasn't true cutting the other way for folks opting first for Boyle and then voting the rest of their ballot. It looks like hundreds upon hundreds of voters deserted Duboc and Winkler on their slate and then voted a mixed ticket, apparently disproportionately for Robinson and Cline.

It's refreshing to see that the snazziest signs don't buy elections, the most money doesn't buy elections, running on a slate platform doesn't buy elections, and trumped up sports fields ballot measures with yet more matching bookend signs don't either. Looks like issues matter and politicians' records really do too, at least to a majority of local voters.

Hopefully the winners will have more to show us in four years than the legacy the last ones have left. Good luck.

Comments (13)

Posted by mpvoter, a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Nov 9, 2006 at 12:11 pm

Why don't you wait to all reports are in and all money is traced before you make statements like the most money does not buy elections. When you consider the Union money and the surely not reported "in-kind" labor contributions from others, I have no doubt the other 3 out spent the incumbent slate.


Posted by ElectionWatcher, a resident of Menlo Park: Sharon Heights
on Nov 9, 2006 at 1:04 pm

More ridiculous spin from mpvoter. Face it, Mickie, YOU LOST - BADLY, despite over $100k spent from your side.
Give your computer a rest already!


Posted by mpvoter, a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Nov 9, 2006 at 1:21 pm

BTW, I am not Mickie Winkler and time will tell what the expenditures were from both sides.


Posted by Another Watcher, a resident of Willow Oaks Elementary
on Nov 9, 2006 at 2:07 pm

Well, Mickie or friend of Mickie or whoever you are, the fact is that the incumbent slate far outspent the challengers, even if you include the union money, which I wouldn't. The unions were angry with the incumbents, and they wanted to defeat them. The challengers did not have any say over the content of the union pieces, and although the unions may have been a little heavy-handed in their approach, they reflected the sentiments of many residents. As for the "in kind" labor contributions, if you're referring to volunteer help from challenger supporters, I'm afraid your complaints are not going to draw more than a few laughs.

The problem, Mickie (or friend or spouse or whatever), is that for four years you and your buds ignored everyone who came before you. We brought hundreds of people to council meetings and your response was "well, the 29,000 people who didn't come tonight must love us." You were wrong.

Many of us who voted for the challengers (and at least two of the challengers) were supporters of Nicky, Mickie, and Lee the last time around. We believed you would listen, and it turns out, we were wrong. I only hoped that the newly elected threesome learn from your mistakes. Whenever you tune out your constituents in favor of a small in-group (especially when that in-group includes nutcases like Dick, Sue, and Hank) you are doomed to be a one-term councilmember--or worse.


Posted by ElectionWatcher, a resident of Menlo Park: Sharon Heights
on Nov 9, 2006 at 2:37 pm

Well said, Another Watcher!

So, mpvoter, are you Dick, Sue or Hank?


Posted by Political Animal, a resident of another community
on Nov 9, 2006 at 5:17 pm

I think John Boyle learned this lesson the hard way. He squeaked in, and I have to believe he would have done better if his name had not been associated with Duboc and Winkler.

Oh, now we're THANKING people for sign removal, are we? Last week we were screaming bloody murder and calling the FBI for even one missing sign!


Posted by Political puppy, a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Nov 9, 2006 at 6:43 pm

Boyle would have done better? I'm not sure how he managed to get any votes. He's an arrogant self-important rich guy who managed to flush a dozen startups down the toilet while snagging his share of the cash first. Did you hear his speech on Tuesday night in which he said that developers who spent millions on a potential project "deserved" to get approval, and that the residents had no right to mount a referendum? We're seeing way too much of this mentality on a national level, but I hate to witness its arrival in Menlo Park.


Posted by showmethemoney, a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Nov 9, 2006 at 11:22 pm

One last thing before the election is behind us... I think that it would be worthwhile for the Almanac to do a story on the final financial filing for each of the candidates. I have heard it said, you do not have to worry so much about those that give publicly before the election, as those who promise to make their contributions as "debt relief" after the election is over.

I believe that this past election shows that it is time to set a maximum limit on campaign expenditures for Menlo Park elections (including by PACs). Just a thought.....


Posted by Political Animal, a resident of another community
on Nov 10, 2006 at 12:14 am

I agree with showmethemoney. I think The Almanac could help get an important debate going in Menlo Park about the need for contribution limits. We need to educate the council and the public about why limits are needed, and we can start by shining some light on contributions made in the last election. I thought municipal code already required the city to publish that information before each election. Does anyone know if that happened? The next step is for the council to pass an ordinance limiting contributions. I don't know if I support limiting expenditures (why shouldn't a candidate who has many supporters writing small checks be allowed to spend it), but that's certainly an important question to discuss as part of this debate.


Posted by moneytalks, a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Nov 10, 2006 at 8:19 pm

PARADIGM SHIFFS! MENLO ELECTION MAY REFLECT NATIONAL TENOR OF ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT, BUT BEWARE THE PONTIFICATING PSEUDO=LIBERALS. STILL CANT GET OVER COLLACCHI'S MEDDLING AFTER HE BAILED, BOUGHT HIS $1.75 LAKEFRONT EMERALD (RWC) HILLS PAD SPRING '05 ($150K OVER ASK,NOW THAT'S EASY MONEY!) AND STILL BOTHERS TO SPEND TIME TO MEDDLE IN MP POLITICS WITH HIS RECORD CORRECTING BLOGS. FOR THOSE OF US WHO STILL CALL MP HOME IT'S TIME WE GO OUT AND STAND ON EL CAMINO AT EVENING PEAK COMMUTE AND SAY, UNLIKE COLLACCHI, WE STAND AND FIGHT AGAINST THE BULLDOZERS!


Posted by moneytalks, a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Nov 10, 2006 at 8:20 pm

PARADIGM SHIFFS! MENLO ELECTION MAY REFLECT NATIONAL TENOR OF ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT, BUT BEWARE THE PONTIFICATING PSEUDO=LIBERALS. STILL CANT GET OVER COLLACCHI'S MEDDLING AFTER HE BAILED, BOUGHT HIS $1.75 LAKEFRONT EMERALD (RWC) HILLS PAD SPRING '05 ($150K OVER ASK,NOW THAT'S EASY MONEY!) AND STILL BOTHERS TO SPEND TIME TO MEDDLE IN MP POLITICS WITH HIS RECORD CORRECTING BLOGS. FOR THOSE OF US WHO STILL CALL MP HOME IT'S TIME WE GO OUT AND STAND ON EL CAMINO AT EVENING PEAK COMMUTE AND SAY, UNLIKE COLLACCHI, WE STAND AND FIGHT AGAINST THE BULLDOZERS!


Posted by FatLadyAintSungYet, a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Nov 11, 2006 at 8:12 pm

With a thousand uncounted absentee ballots let's not jump to the conclusion that Mr. Flush-a-few million down the toilet Boyle has won that seat by 100 votes... Why does the almanac assume that all is said and done until the county counts the last 20 thousand absentee ballots?


Posted by DOTBOMB, a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Nov 11, 2006 at 8:57 pm

FAT LADY, YOU MUST BE CURIOUS ABOUT GOOGLING "PLURIS JOHN BOYLE", THEN CHECK OUT SANTA CLARA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT FILINGS, JOHN BOYLE, PLURIS, UNLAWFUL DETAINER FOR EVICTION PROCEEDINGS, HVAC CONTRACTOR UNPAID. TALK ABOUT LEAVING EMPLOYEES, SHAREHOLDERS OUT IN THE "COLD".
YOU GOT IT RIGHT ABOUT BOYLE.


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